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 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: 1948 the official German morons revealed Kurt & Werner Knoll |
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In article <wAhbk.50513$kx.47476@pd7urf3no>,
The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat, polished
his Pikelhaube, fluffed his Skunk Yellow Hitler
Jugend Tutu with Balsa Cross and
<kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote:
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You tell me i really like to know and i want to veryfy what you claim it
was.
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You tell me exactly how many Germans died during a single Allied
raid on Nurnberg. I want to verify your claim. No lies now, none of your
distortions!
YOU have yet to prove that "Gussen was a regional crematorium
and therefore also included civilian death from this area," as you
claimed on July 3, 2008.
YOU have yet to prove that "the Germans killed more Jews
that were ever alive" as you claimed on June 28, 2008
YOU have yet to prove that reporters or photographers carried
"5 or 6" striped inmate uniforms from concentration camp to
concentration camp just to photograph people wearing them,
as you have claimed.
YOU have yet to prove that (1) human fat will not combust, and
(2) contribute to the heat of the cremation process, as you
have claimed.
YOU have failed to prove the existence of a single "Eisenhower
death camp," as you have claimed, and you have ignored the fact
that the German Government itself has said that Bacque's
assertions about hundreds of thousands of German soldiers being
deliberately starved to death is absolute rubbish.
YOU have failed to document that concentration camp guards -
ANY concentration camp guards - were ever placed under any
sort of "gag order" by anyone, as you have claimed, nor have you
been able to produce this alleged "gag order," or point to any
archive, anywhere in the world, where it might be found.
YOU have failed to prove your incredibly stupid assertion that
45,000 people died during the bombing of Nurnberg as you have claimed.
YOU have failed to prove your bizarre assertion that someone,
somewhere, said that the Germans killed prisoners at Mauthausen
as soon as they arrived by train, as you have claimed.
YOU have yet to show which clause of the Versailles Treaty, exactly,
prohibits the construction of Polish military installations along
the Polish Corridor, even though you claim such a prohibition exists
within the treaty.
YOU have failed to produce any "agreement" between the Allies and the
post-war German government that banned "butting" the Allies in "a bad
light" as you have claimed.
YOU have not contacted European universities to determine whether or not
materials you claim are "banned," as you have claimed, are available.
YOU have not documented a single law that banned publication of newspapers
printed between 1918 and 1939, as you have claimed.
YOU have not contacted the IFZ to ask them to document their claim about
gassings at Dachau.
YOU cannot produce a shred of documentation proving that a plaque exists
outside the Dachau camp which states that no one was ever gassed there,
as you have claimed.
YOU have not documented a single law which bans "discussion of the
Holocaust," or "asking questions about the Holocaust," as you have
claimed.
THAT is why your claim that you are here to "find out the truth" is so
easily revealed as a blatant lie.
YOU have not documented or identified a single law which forbids
"dissection" of Holocaust historiography, as you have claimed.
--
"No wonder years after the war was over he found some more
diaries of Ann Frank and she did not know about it."
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/ |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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RJ11 wrote:
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In article <g4fii4$d52$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
Why did one camp require 870 workers to burn corpses?
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
Do you have any idea how many corpses 870 stokers can burn?
Give me the time sheets corresponding to that activity and I'll answer you.
We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200 (after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
of them were killed).
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Do you have ALL time sheets corresponding to those periods?
Can you really prove that there were 900 stokers every day in July and August ?
I am curious to examine those time sheets.
BTW, if you have access to those valuable documents try to show me the time sheets
corresponding to the activity of the cremation at any of the Krema of Birkenau.
I mean sheets like that one
http://www.holocaust-history.org/gusen-cremation-timesheet/
That would be really interesting to study. I ask to see such documents since long time ago. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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RJ11 wrote:
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In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
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Give me time sheets corresponding to the cremation at Birkenau and I'll anwer you with
more accuracy. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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I'll Always Be Here wrote:
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RJ11 <rj11@nospam.com> wrote in news:g4jbb1$ju2$1@pcls4.std.com:
In article <g4fii4$d52$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
Why did one camp require 870 workers to burn corpses?
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the
Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-
3.s
html
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
Do you have any idea how many corpses 870 stokers can burn?
Give me the time sheets corresponding to that activity and I'll answer
you.
We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200
So according to zulus formula, that's an average of 510 per month.
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LOL. Are you an idiot?
As the time sheets showed are taken day by day I am not so stupid to make an average
corresponding to a period if I don't have in my hand time sheets of ALL THE DAYS OF THAT
PERIOD.
So, try to be more smart for once.
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(after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
of them were killed).
Maybe zulu can tell us why there was a sonderkommando rebellion if they
were treated so well?
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When did I tell such thing?
What I tell about sonderkommandos is that THEY LIED when they assumed that only them were
able to see what happened at the supposed *gas chambers*.
I proved that thousands of inmates had been able to see those places every single day. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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In article <g4o060$lab$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
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RJ11 wrote:
We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200 (after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
of them were killed).
Do you have ALL time sheets corresponding to those periods?
Can you really prove that there were 900 stokers every day in July
and August ?
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Yes for July. I'll check the exact dates.
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I am curious to examine those time sheets.
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One must be curious to learn that one single camp required
nearly 900 people whose job was to burn corpses. But, being
the nutcase you are, you will continue to deny reality.
RJ. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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In article <g4o0ob$ncf$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
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LOL. Are you an idiot?
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No, nazi-boi. You are the idiot. For example, you don't
see anything strange or suspicious about one camp requiring
nearly 900 people whose job is to burn corpses.
RJ. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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RJ11 wrote:
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In article <g4o060$lab$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200 (after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
of them were killed).
Do you have ALL time sheets corresponding to those periods?
Can you really prove that there were 900 stokers every day in July
and August ?
Yes for July. I'll check the exact dates.
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Show us all the corresponding july's sheets then.
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I am curious to examine those time sheets.
One must be curious to learn that one single camp required
nearly 900 people whose job was to burn corpses. But, being
the nutcase you are, you will continue to deny reality.
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It could have been even 1000 a day and 150 another day.
Guess why only selected higher figures are showed...
SO, the complete records are required in order to estimate an AVERAGE of the manpower
engaged there.
BUT THAT IS NOT THE MAIN POINT TO ME.
As I told before, why time sheets similar than that Gusen's one and corresponding to each
Birkenau's Krema are nor showed to us IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH ACCURATE PARAMETERS OF
FURNACES' PERFORMANCE AND THEIR ACTUAL PRODUCTION AT BIRKENAU?
Why coke/wood consumption during time life of Auschwitz is noT exposed?
GIVE ME THOSE DATA AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE ACCURATE FIGURE OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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RJ11 wrote:
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In article <g4o0ob$ncf$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
LOL. Are you an idiot?
No, nazi-boi. You are the idiot. For example, you don't
see anything strange or suspicious about one camp requiring
nearly 900 people whose job is to burn corpses.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:45 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote in news:g4u72j$igq$1@aioe.org:
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RJ11 wrote:
In article <g4o060$lab$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200 (after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
of them were killed).
Do you have ALL time sheets corresponding to those periods?
Can you really prove that there were 900 stokers every day in July
and August ?
Yes for July. I'll check the exact dates.
Show us all the corresponding july's sheets then.
I am curious to examine those time sheets.
One must be curious to learn that one single camp required
nearly 900 people whose job was to burn corpses. But, being
the nutcase you are, you will continue to deny reality.
It could have been even 1000 a day and 150 another day.
Guess why only selected higher figures are showed...
SO, the complete records are required in order to estimate an AVERAGE of
the manpower engaged there.
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Just like the complete records are required in order to estimate the
AVERAGE of daily deaths there.
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BUT THAT IS NOT THE MAIN POINT TO ME.
As I told before, why time sheets similar than that Gusen's one and
corresponding to each Birkenau's Krema are nor showed to us IN ORDER TO
ESTABLISH ACCURATE PARAMETERS OF FURNACES' PERFORMANCE AND THEIR ACTUAL
PRODUCTION AT BIRKENAU?
Why coke/wood consumption during time life of Auschwitz is noT exposed?
GIVE ME THOSE DATA AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE ACCURATE FIGURE OF WHAT
HAPPENED THERE.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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"ZULU" <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote in message news:g4u73v$igq$2@aioe.org...
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| > In article <g4o0ob$ncf$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
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| >>LOL. Are you an idiot?
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| > No, nazi-boi. You are the idiot. For example, you don't
| > see anything strange or suspicious about one camp requiring
| > nearly 900 people whose job is to burn corpses.
There is no proof they were required to burn corpses. That is simply an
assumption.
They were more likely being used for regular and scheduled maintanance.
I have also read reports the facility manufactured there own coke. That is a
labour intensive activity. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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"Truth Will Out" <Truthwillout@all_times.net> wrote in
news:5Tzck.18008$IK1.16193@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
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"ZULU" <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote in message
news:g4u73v$igq$2@aioe.org...
| RJ11 wrote:
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| > In article <g4o0ob$ncf$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
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| >>LOL. Are you an idiot?
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| > No, nazi-boi. You are the idiot. For example, you don't
| > see anything strange or suspicious about one camp requiring
| > nearly 900 people whose job is to burn corpses.
There is no proof they were required to burn corpses. That is simply an
assumption.
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Just like the assumption that the time sheet at Gusen is accurate?
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They were more likely being used for regular and scheduled maintanance.
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Of course they were. 900 people for regular and scheduled maintenance on
crematoriums doesn't strike you as strange either, does it?
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I have also read reports the facility manufactured there own coke. That
is a labour intensive activity.
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Of course you have and you will show us these reports and show us the coke
conversion facility?
You are losing it cramer. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:32 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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I'll Always Be Here wrote:
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ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote in news:g4u72j$igq$1@aioe.org:
RJ11 wrote:
In article <g4o060$lab$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200 (after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
of them were killed).
Do you have ALL time sheets corresponding to those periods?
Can you really prove that there were 900 stokers every day in July
and August ?
Yes for July. I'll check the exact dates.
Show us all the corresponding july's sheets then.
I am curious to examine those time sheets.
One must be curious to learn that one single camp required
nearly 900 people whose job was to burn corpses. But, being
the nutcase you are, you will continue to deny reality.
It could have been even 1000 a day and 150 another day.
Guess why only selected higher figures are showed...
SO, the complete records are required in order to estimate an AVERAGE of
the manpower engaged there.
Just like the complete records are required in order to estimate the
AVERAGE of daily deaths there.
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Such records exist even for Auschwitz, there are in the Arolsen archives.
However, as they show very much lower deaths' figures than the DOGMA tells, there are not
exposed publicly and then holoks invent stories like "people gassed upon arrival without
any traces" to fill the gaps.
The SS were very meticulous in establishing deaths registers at their camps even if they
showed high mortality rates. For which reason would have deliberately screwed up their
records?
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BUT THAT IS NOT THE MAIN POINT TO ME.
As I told before, why time sheets similar than that Gusen's one and
corresponding to each Birkenau's Krema are nor showed to us IN ORDER TO
ESTABLISH ACCURATE PARAMETERS OF FURNACES' PERFORMANCE AND THEIR ACTUAL
PRODUCTION AT BIRKENAU?
Why coke/wood consumption during time life of Auschwitz is noT exposed?
GIVE ME THOSE DATA AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE ACCURATE FIGURE OF WHAT
HAPPENED THERE.
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I am still waiting. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote in news:g562n4$iej$1@aioe.org:
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I'll Always Be Here wrote:
ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote in news:g4u72j$igq$1@aioe.org:
RJ11 wrote:
In article <g4o060$lab$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200 (after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
of them were killed).
Do you have ALL time sheets corresponding to those periods?
Can you really prove that there were 900 stokers every day in July
and August ?
Yes for July. I'll check the exact dates.
Show us all the corresponding july's sheets then.
I am curious to examine those time sheets.
One must be curious to learn that one single camp required
nearly 900 people whose job was to burn corpses. But, being
the nutcase you are, you will continue to deny reality.
It could have been even 1000 a day and 150 another day.
Guess why only selected higher figures are showed...
SO, the complete records are required in order to estimate an AVERAGE
of the manpower engaged there.
Just like the complete records are required in order to estimate the
AVERAGE of daily deaths there.
Such records exist even for Auschwitz, there are in the Arolsen
archives.
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Then go there and get them.
However, as they show very much lower deaths' figures than the
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DOGMA tells, there are not exposed publicly and then holoks invent
stories like "people gassed upon arrival without any traces" to fill the
gaps.
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So they aren't "exposed publicly", they are in Arolsen, yet you know what
they "say"?
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The SS were very meticulous in establishing deaths registers at their
camps even if they showed high mortality rates. For which reason would
have deliberately screwed up their records?
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To please Himmler? Of course, since they were getting paid the money the
inmates earned as forced labor, maybe it was in their best interest to
keep crooked books? Because they saw the writing on the wall and wanted to
minimize their future problems? Because the SS was a thugocracy and they
were thugs?
Take your choice, they all seem like perfectly workable reasons to me.
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BUT THAT IS NOT THE MAIN POINT TO ME.
As I told before, why time sheets similar than that Gusen's one and
corresponding to each Birkenau's Krema are nor showed to us IN ORDER TO
ESTABLISH ACCURATE PARAMETERS OF FURNACES' PERFORMANCE AND THEIR ACTUAL
PRODUCTION AT BIRKENAU?
Why coke/wood consumption during time life of Auschwitz is noT exposed?
GIVE ME THOSE DATA AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE ACCURATE FIGURE OF WHAT
HAPPENED THERE.
I am still waiting.
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And I hear Arolsen calling you. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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In article <g4u72j$igq$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
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RJ11 wrote:
One must be curious to learn that one single camp required
nearly 900 people whose job was to burn corpses. But, being
the nutcase you are, you will continue to deny reality.
SO, the complete records are required in order to estimate an
AVERAGE of the manpower engaged there.
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I told you that already, you poor nazi retard.
RJ. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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In article <g4u73v$igq$2@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
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RJ11 wrote:
No, nazi-boi. You are the idiot. For example, you don't
see anything strange or suspicious about one camp requiring
nearly 900 people whose job is to burn corpses.
define strange
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Jesus Christ. A philosopher we have here already.
RJ. |
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