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 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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Rabbi Jew 11 wrote:
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In article <J2I9k.24777$_03.13826@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
halle <hallerih@gmail.com> wrote:
(yawn)
Let's start with some really simple questions:
1. Why did one camp require 870 workers to burn corpses?
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
2. How do you explain the following:
In a memo written on September 8 1942, Kurt Prufer of the
firm "Topf and Sons" stated that Auschwitz officials are not
satisfied with a cremation capacity of 2,650 corpses per day,
and "we should deliver more ovens as quickly as possible"
(http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/topf/).
By the way -- your juvenile sense of humor is, well, juvenile.
Do attempt to grow up.
RJ.
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So from May 1943 until January ~17 1945 (627 days), de eefil nazzis gassed
and cremated approx 3190 joos every day according to Hoess' "confession"
(2.5 million people gassed & cremated in all).
Care to speculate how de eefil nazzis managed this jump in effectiveness?
Where did they get all the fuel to burn the joos with? Where are the bodies,
or at least the bone fragments and ashes?
Oy vey, deh poisecution!
Answer when you are asked, judeschwein. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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In article <g48grf$7j1$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
Do you have any idea how many corpses 870 stokers can burn?
RJ. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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RJ11 wrote:
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In article <qnJ9k.24817$_03.3119@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
halle <hallerih@gmail.com> wrote:
(snip)
I asked you a simple question:
Why did one camp require 870 workers to burn corpses?
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
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How many times must we repeat the always same answers?
Reason?
For the same reason which made that the operations continued 24 hours a day, with three
shifts of prisoners on this task, changing every eight hours to disinfest-fect inmates'
effects.
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
BTW please precise how many times was that number of workers at cremation.
I am afraid you cherry picked up the most impressive number whicvh runned very few time
actually.
When Typhus epidemics were at their maximum, not only ovens worked hard but also the
installations of prevention like Zentral Sauna:
THE EFFECTS DISINFECTION AND DISINFESTATION OPERATIONS
These operations as carried out at the Zentral Sauna were described in a letter
sent to the Auschwitz Museum by a Czech former prisoner:
(Summary)
The procedures used were:
1. Hot air: Large and heavy effects, such as coats, outer clothing, etc.;
2. Steam: “light” effects, such as underclothes, shirts and any type of
clothing considered as light, for example the “Zebra-Kleider,” prison uniforms.
Blankets were also included in this group
3. Other: Leather objects, such au shoes, belts. etc. were disinfected using
Karbol. Lysol or water containing hydrocyanic acid, a mixture obtained by
pouring Zyklon-B crystals into the water.
This letter mentions that the operations continued 24 hours a day, with three
shifts of prisoners on this task, changing every eight hours.
It will be noted that the methods described by this former prisoner were almost
identical with those used in the US Army at that time [see following page],
....
http://www.mazal.org/Pressac/Pressac0065.htm |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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RJ11 wrote:
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In article <g48grf$7j1$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
Why did one camp require 870 workers to burn corpses?
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
Do you have any idea how many corpses 870 stokers can burn?
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Give me the time sheets corresponding to that activity and I'll answer you. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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RJ11 wrote:
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In article <g48grf$7j1$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
Why did one camp require 870 workers to burn corpses?
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
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See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at the unique installation of
Zentral Sauna during that day if not by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
Is it so strange that the same day 900 workers were distributed to work at 4 Kremas?
Isn't it an indication that epidemics were attacking hugely the camp during that period?
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Do you have any idea how many corpses 870 stokers can burn?
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A --> Not only burn, you have some logistic more and they were 4 crematoria working.
Such number of workers on such peak is not extraordinary if you make the
distribution of workers according with the different tasks involved at each
crematoria. Let see that point in details.
If we consider the same rush than at Zentral Sauna corresponding with continuous operation
24 hours a day, with three shifts of prisoners on this task, changing every eight hours.
http://www.mazal.org/Pressac/Pressac0065.htm
I will be fair, I'll take a total of 900 workers as mentioned on the report
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
But we have to go further in details. WE see on page 3 the lines 57-B to 61-B the
distribution of workers in day & night teams.
If we take only day turn that means a distribution of workers as following
Krema II -> 109
Krema III-> 110
Krema IV -> 109
Krema V -> 109
Now, at each Krema you have to distribute those numbers in order to place workers at their
different posts according to the task performed:
We could list the tasks as following
1- to collect and bring corpses to the morgues from different locations of the camp,
2- to dispose corpses at the morgues,
3- to undress corpses,
4- to pick up the gold teeth
5- to transport from morgues to ovens,
6- to transport coke from the main storage to the furnaces' room
7- to work at the furnaces (loading corpses, loading coke),
8- to make some diverse cleanness and maintenance tasks.
To be noted that under the term of "stokers" it appears that the SS grouped all workers in
operation at the Kremas because on their sheets concerning available manpower (page 3 and
others) there is any differentiation to name workers performing the necessary tasks listed
above.
We observe that at Krema II to V (That is the reference of numeration commonly used now
whilst I to IV are mentioned on the sheet because the SS didn't count Krema I stopped at
Auschwitz I). So, for SS at BIrkenau Kremas were listed fro I to IV while the modern count
list them from II to V.
Now we have to make the distribution of workers for each task but stressing the point that
at least 3 might be posted at each muffle to operate the furnaces.
That means for instance 45 workers posted directly at the ovens of Krema II and III
and the remaining of 65 to be distributed on the 7 other tasks.
That give us roughly an average of 9 to 10 workers by task which doesn't seem an
exaggerated number.
A detail to be noted is the fact that, on this day, Krema V worked only during the day
while it appears (line 61-B) a post named "Wood Unloaders Krem.IV" with 30 workers
affected to that single task, numbered nº 6 of my tasks' list above.
That gives us an idea of the numbers of workers that could be destined to each single task
and my estimation of an average of 10 appears to be low to that specific one.
Regarding in details all those tasks and the number of workers needed to each one,
Is that number of 900 extraordinary for a maximum peak at that camp?
And BTW, How many days were 900 stokers working at 4 Kremas of Birkenau?
Have we other time sheets to compare and make an average of activity during a
larger period?
Have we some time sheet similar to the Gusen's one which could clear any doubt about the
actual performance of the furnaces?
http://www.holocaust-history.org/gusen-cremation-timesheet/
Now, try to give us those data I am asking from long time ago about coke/wood consumption
at that camp, or the time sheets corresponding with such activity that the way to clear
that question. Any doubt will remain with those documents on hand.
Any holok gave me an answer about their availability, so, I am waiting.
B--> When 900 people worked at crematorium, that same day thousands of other
workers operated other installations like Zentral Sauna where 3 turns of 8 h on
24h were in place continuously (probably 800 workers see "53-B. Cleanup Detail.
Au. II.New Disinf. Camp" page 3).
Other thousands of civilian workers from sub-contractors firms were there
also. Try to verify ALL pages including those "900 workers".
See for instance people working there the same day
Grand Total: 15298
There were 13,466 people present that day at Birkenau occupied with some task
and 1832 unemployed for several reasons (Medical Orderlies 113,Interrogation 10,
Quarantine upon Admission 1324, Quarantine for Suspected Typhus 385).
Why put 1709 people in quarantine in a killing factory?
See that detail page 3
Employed:.....................B II/a...B II/d..B II/f..B II/g.
a/ Skilled Workers....Pris.:....15......1,608.....50......61
b/ Unskilled Workers..Pris.:....41......6,381....136.....531
b/ Unskilled Workers...Gyp.:.....1..........6......0.......0
---Sums--------------------------57.....7,995......186....592 = total 8,830 workers
At that "Secret zone" and alleged "death camp" there were 8830 prisoners working
including 7 unskilled gypsies.
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, as conclusion, 900 stokers may appear as impressive at first sight but when you have a
more precise idea of what were the different tasks involved to operate the 4 Kremas as
well as the distribution we have to do by day & night turns and by Krema, we arrive to
numbers more acceptable for a normal operation and nothing seems extraordinary.
Moreover, we must consider that such number of workers was exceptional and the period
involved with such heavy activity was not less than few days.
As usual, the holoks just show us the higher numbers, without any detail concerning the
number of days related with such numbers, and omit periods of normal activity which
certainly did not require day & night turns but only day turn like showed on the Gusen's
time sheet.
Now, There are more interesting things that can be told with the document presented.
We already have observed that when 900 workers were operating the Kremas, there were not
less than 8,830 people working on the same zone.
That is certainly not very compatible with the version of the DOGMA which wants make us
believe that only "sonderkommandos" were working at the Kremas' zone and, above all, that
the operation was PERFORMED SECRETLY.
SO, a big SECRET to 8,830 people !!!!
Furthermore, if we add to such number of potential eyewitnesses the thousands of inmates
who were continuously sent to Zentral Sauna to be disinfes-fected and returned to their
place, we have there a big number of eyewitnesses who could not avoid seeing "the queues
of 2000 jews at the doors of the gas chambers" every day.
That is the supposed big SECRET maintained by the SS.
A SECRET not shared by few "sonderkommandos" as tells the dogma,
but by more than TEN THOUSANDS of inmates every day !!!
How many of them have told what they actually saw? |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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In article <g4fii4$d52$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
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RJ11 wrote:
Why did one camp require 870 workers to burn corpses?
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
Do you have any idea how many corpses 870 stokers can burn?
Give me the time sheets corresponding to that activity and I'll answer you.
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We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200 (after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
of them were killed).
RJ. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
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RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
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These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
RJ. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed "nearly 300,0 |
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RJ11 <rj11@nospam.com> wrote in news:g4jbb1$ju2$1@pcls4.std.com:
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In article <g4fii4$d52$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
Why did one camp require 870 workers to burn corpses?
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the
Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-
3.s
html
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
Do you have any idea how many corpses 870 stokers can burn?
Give me the time sheets corresponding to that activity and I'll answer
you.
We've been through this before. The number of the stokers was
about 200 in April and early May, it increased to nearly 900 in
July and August, then decreased to 660 in early October, and then
to about 200
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So according to zulus formula, that's an average of 510 per month.
(after the sonderkommando rebellion in which about 450
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of them were killed).
RJ.
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Maybe zulu can tell us why there was a sonderkommando rebellion if they
were treated so well? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:25 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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Interesting document who can I compare this with the original. Paper
normally fades with age this one looks very new to me.
Kurt Knoll.
"RJ11" <rj11@nospam.com> wrote in message news:g4jcl3$fcm$1@pcls4.std.com...
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In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
RJ. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Interesting document who can I compare this with the original. Paper
normally fades with age this one looks very new to me.
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You can compare it next to the document that you say says 45000 people
died in a single air raid on Nuremberg. That claim seems new to me also.
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Kurt Knoll.
"RJ11" <rj11@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the
Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-
3.
shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
RJ.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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Hey you two faced fucking brick you cilimping up the wrong tree. Everything
you say is to discredit anyone that is criticizing you, Honest you have
never been.
Kurt Knoll
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:itbbk.53699$Jx.3815@pd7urf1no:
Interesting document who can I compare this with the original. Paper
normally fades with age this one looks very new to me.
You can compare it next to the document that you say says 45000 people
died in a single air raid on Nuremberg. That claim seems new to me also.
Kurt Knoll.
"RJ11" <rj11@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:g4jcl3$fcm$1@pcls4.std.com...
In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the
Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-
3.
shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
RJ.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Hey you two faced fucking brick you cilimping up the wrong tree.
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If you want to climp a tree, ask your brother.
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Everything you say is to discredit anyone that is criticizing you,
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You discredit yourself fuckhead.
How many people really died in a single air raid on Nuremberg?
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Honest you have never been.
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How would you know, you've never met a lie you couldn't get aroused by.
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Kurt Knoll
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:itbbk.53699$Jx.3815@pd7urf1no:
Interesting document who can I compare this with the original. Paper
normally fades with age this one looks very new to me.
You can compare it next to the document that you say says 45000 people
died in a single air raid on Nuremberg. That claim seems new to me
also.
Kurt Knoll.
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In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the
Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/
~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-
3.
shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
RJ.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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You tell me i really like to know and i want to veryfy what you claim it
was.
Kurt Knoll.
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Hey you two faced fucking brick you cilimping up the wrong tree.
If you want to climp a tree, ask your brother.
Everything you say is to discredit anyone that is criticizing you,
You discredit yourself fuckhead.
How many people really died in a single air raid on Nuremberg?
Honest you have never been.
How would you know, you've never met a lie you couldn't get aroused by.
Kurt Knoll
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:itbbk.53699$Jx.3815@pd7urf1no:
Interesting document who can I compare this with the original. Paper
normally fades with age this one looks very new to me.
You can compare it next to the document that you say says 45000 people
died in a single air raid on Nuremberg. That claim seems new to me
also.
Kurt Knoll.
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In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn> wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the
Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/
~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-
3.
shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
RJ.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in news:wAhbk.50513$kx.47476
@pd7urf3no:
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You tell me i really like to know and i want to veryfy what you claim it
was.
Kurt Knoll.
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You tell me what I would really like to know and I want to verify what you
claim it is.
Start with telling me what I would really like to know about the single
air raid on Nuremberg and I want to verify what you claim it is.
Then tell me the truth about this poor prisoner who had to walk up stairs
carrying 25 kilo until he died.
Then tell me about the photographers that carried 5 or 6 prisoner uniforms
with them.
Then tell me
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:FYgbk.54602$Jx.46990@pd7urf1no:
Hey you two faced fucking brick you cilimping up the wrong tree.
If you want to climp a tree, ask your brother.
Everything you say is to discredit anyone that is criticizing you,
You discredit yourself fuckhead.
How many people really died in a single air raid on Nuremberg?
Honest you have never been.
How would you know, you've never met a lie you couldn't get aroused by.
Kurt Knoll
"I'll Always Be Here" <aussiessuck@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9AD0BAB1FB7B4Theonlyonethatcares@194.177.98.144...
"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:itbbk.53699$Jx.3815@pd7urf1no:
Interesting document who can I compare this with the original. Paper
normally fades with age this one looks very new to me.
You can compare it next to the document that you say says 45000
people
died in a single air raid on Nuremberg. That claim seems new to me
also.
Kurt Knoll.
"RJ11" <rj11@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:g4jcl3$fcm$1@pcls4.std.com...
In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn
wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the
Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/
~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-
3.
shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
RJ.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: Re: 1948 the official German newsreel revealed - 900 stoker |
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
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You tell me i really like to know and i want to veryfy what you claim it
was.
Kurt Knoll.
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You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
Where did you go to school?
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have yet to prove that "Gussen was a regional crematorium
and therefore also included civilian death from this area," as you
claimed on July 3, 2008.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have yet to prove that "the Germans killed more Jews
that were ever alive" as you claimed on June 28, 2008
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have yet to prove that reporters or photographers carried
"5 or 6" striped inmate uniforms from concentration camp to
concentration camp just to photograph people wearing them,
as you have claimed.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have yet to prove that (1) human fat will not combust, and
(2) contribute to the heat of the cremation process, as you
have claimed.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have failed to prove the existence of a single "Eisenhower
death camp," as you have claimed, and you have ignored the fact
that the German Government itself has said that Bacque's
assertions about hundreds of thousands of German soldiers being
deliberately starved to death is absolute rubbish.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have failed to document that concentration camp guards -
ANY concentration camp guards - were ever placed under any
sort of "gag order" by anyone, as you have claimed, nor have you
been able to produce this alleged "gag order," or point to any
archive, anywhere in the world, where it might be found.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have failed to prove your incredibly stupid assertion that
45,000 people died during the bombing of Nurnberg as you have claimed.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have failed to prove your bizarre assertion that someone,
somewhere, said that the Germans killed prisoners at Mauthausen
as soon as they arrived by train, as you have claimed.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have yet to show which clause of the Versailles Treaty, exactly,
prohibits the construction of Polish military installations along
the Polish Corridor, even though you claim such a prohibition exists
within the treaty.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have failed to produce any "agreement" between the Allies and the
post-war German government that banned "butting" the Allies in "a bad
light" as you have claimed.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have not contacted European universities to determine whether or not
materials you claim are "banned," as you have claimed, are available.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have not documented a single law that banned publication of newspapers
printed between 1918 and 1939, as you have claimed.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have not contacted the IFZ to ask them to document their claim about
gassings at Dachau.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU cannot produce a shred of documentation proving that a plaque exists
outside the Dachau camp which states that no one was ever gassed there,
as you have claimed.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have not documented a single law which bans "discussion of the
Holocaust," or "asking questions about the Holocaust," as you have
claimed.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
THAT is why your claim that you are here to "find out the truth" is so
easily revealed as a blatant lie.
You tell me what I really want to know about this and I want to verify
what you claim it was:
YOU have not documented or identified a single law which forbids
"dissection" of Holocaust historiography, as you have claimed.
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussiessuck@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:FYgbk.54602$Jx.46990@pd7urf1no:
Hey you two faced fucking brick you cilimping up the wrong tree.
If you want to climp a tree, ask your brother.
Everything you say is to discredit anyone that is criticizing you,
You discredit yourself fuckhead.
How many people really died in a single air raid on Nuremberg?
Honest you have never been.
How would you know, you've never met a lie you couldn't get aroused by.
Kurt Knoll
"I'll Always Be Here" <aussiessuck@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9AD0BAB1FB7B4Theonlyonethatcares@194.177.98.144...
"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:itbbk.53699$Jx.3815@pd7urf1no:
Interesting document who can I compare this with the original. Paper
normally fades with age this one looks very new to me.
You can compare it next to the document that you say says 45000
people died in a single air raid on Nuremberg. That claim seems new
to me also.
Kurt Knoll.
"RJ11" <rj11@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:g4jcl3$fcm$1@pcls4.std.com...
In article <g4g24h$eie$1@aioe.org>, ZULU <zulu@freetibet.cn
wrote:
RJ11 wrote:
SS labor deployment report, listing 870 stokers in the
Auschwitz-
Birkenau crematoriums:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/
~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-
3.
shtml
Can you answer? Yes or no?
A huge attack of epidemics at the camp.
Prove that there was a "huge attack of epidemics at the camp"
in the summer of 1944.
See that line at page 3
53-B. Cleanup Detail. Au. II.New Disinf.Camp Unskilled workers 590
from the report:
"Concentration Camp Auschwitz II. Labor force July 28, 1944"
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/labor-force/19440728/
So, how could we explain that 590 workers had to work only at
the unique installation of Zentral Sauna during that day if not
by an extraordinary activity on prophylactic measures.
These workers are listed as "clearing up detail". Their job was
to collect the belongings of the victims.
Do you have reports from the SS about a massive epidemic during
this period?
Yes or no?
The increase in the number of stokers coincides with the beginning
of the arrival of 430,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to
Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
In January 1945, there were about 70,000 inmates in Auschwitz.
According to everyone who was there, as supported by all the
evidence, and consistent with the declared goals of Nazi
Germany, the large majority of these Hungarian Jews were
murdered during these few months. That's why this one camp
required nearly 900 workers in its crematoriums.
RJ.
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